Sorting fun, SpaceX IPO, YT surprises, Peppermint Patty stans and more...

This was a busy week for Jesse and Jenn. They went back to back to back to back interviews and live streams. And the result? We are just full of gratitude and joy, sort of like a piñata that we hope you do not hit with a bat.

Our conversation pivots from the sorting hat fun Sam and Jesse are having on Substack to SpaceX's new IPO and the creepy clause in the verbage. We dive into a quick pondering of why tech bros hate us humans so much, which ends up, of course, with us fingerling over Peppermint Patty. 

And hey, this is what we found out off mic about the President and his use of the phrase, "Good grief!" Just sayin'.

Yes, President Trump has occasionally used the phrase “good grief,” although it is not a staple in his typical vocabulary. He used the expression in a 2017 CNN interview when discussing criminal justice and police conduct, responding to the premise of a reporter's question.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:16

You know how, and this is just completely out of the blue. Okay, just this is this is how our exchange starts, okay? Okay, I love this.

SPEAKER_02 0:25

It's like how our show starts.

SPEAKER_04 0:27

Yeah, you know how for some reason videos of women talking about stuff while putting on makeup is super popular? Like they don't talk about true crime while they do their makeup and how they had a baby with Elon Musk.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

I feel like a lot of women have had babies with Elon Musk. I've fucking fell out. Are you kidding? That's like hilarious.

SPEAKER_03 0:52

That's one of the first things I read this time, dude. I call your text thread of people your coven. I call you that Jesse's Coven. Like we're all your coven of these like powerful. I think I, you know, I don't want to say because I then I'm like inflating my own tires, but other people in the thread are really smart, they're funny, they have good senses of humor, they get this shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

Like, I I it just goes to show that I have like the best, smartest friends in the world who have great friends all so funny. I know they're so fucking funny.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

That's their common thread.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

But like that, that that but the but like like uh so I got Anna Maria in one chat box going on with the like what we were just talking about, okay? Yeah, and then I got Miranda in the other one with like that, and I'm just like I'm like, this is too. I was like, I have got to get the two of you together on stream or something because that needs to happen, it would be gold.

SPEAKER_03 1:47

Yeah, you got you should guys should just do a live. That'd be so fun. I mean, I thought the one last night with the sorting of Abigail. I it it's that is my favorite content. This real content where people are talking about their experiences, learning about their clairs, learning about their strengths. She was like, I'm nervous about the grief thing, but actually now I'm feeling like I need to lean into this death doula thing. And I'm just like, my whole body was tingling because I have been leaning into that.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

So well, yeah, you know, and I mean, we've we I mean, uh, you know, I would never say anything, but since you just said it, you know, we've talked you've talked about that a little bit about how you're you you're really thinking about pursuing that.

SPEAKER_03 2:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:28

And I I think it's amazing. And I gotta be honest, it's like uh Sam and I have we have we have no agenda, you know what I mean? We're we're just like, wouldn't it be fun to uh to to talk about Rachel's book? Yeah, and like spin that into like a like a series thing where we just talk about, you know, we just get cool people on and we like talk about their you know their their clairs is as Rachel has, you know, clair clairvoyance and you know clair essence sentience, this clear that. Yeah, and like uh we'll just you know we'll we'll we'll sort them into like a uh let's just say we'll sort them into like a a magic house, uh, you know, and leave it at that.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

But um it's so great, and I love that you guys don't even know the house. I well, I was just gonna say, I think it's so cute that you don't even know the houses of Harry Potter, so you're like, wait, let's just house the chat. And I'm like, oh the oh Abigail's Ravenclaw, she's like a badass person, like yeah, and I mean that's that that's that's really not shtick.

SPEAKER_04 3:32

I really don't know the house. I love that, yeah. But um, not that anything we're doing is based on Harry Potter, it's just a weird coincidence, but um Harry Potter, yeah, Harry Potter, but um Harry Otter, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:47

So uh Harry Otter. No, I think I have that sticker from Seattle Aquarium, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:53

Don't now now uh later now okay. That's the next text I'm gonna get this afternoon. What's a Harry Otter?

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Um no uh uh no, it's not that it's just everyone that we use it.

SPEAKER_04 4:06

I I I I know it's it's it's double entendre, Jen. Trust me. I'll explain it to you later. Um what uh no, but but seriously though, every every one of these like things that you know, every one of these these things that we do with Sam, like they they progressively get more like we're we're we're we're at this, we're at one point where in in one sense we're streamlining kind of how we do it, yeah. But we're also every time like like people are sharing more and like really get like glasses like like like um like there was a lot packed into like what an hour and a half or half that long ago.

SPEAKER_03 4:47

It was amazing, yeah. And and and the chat, the chat adds so much to it too, because you have all these people that are kind of in the knowing different ways, and they're adding their experience, and it's just this richness that it adds to your guys's conversations.

SPEAKER_04 5:03

Yeah, it's like all rock stars, every one of them, and I'm just like uh you know, and uh which which that's the one thing about when you give Substack Live, like the the chat's only there when it's live. Yeah, you know what I mean? So that doesn't carry over to your video content, but I can assure you guys, if you haven't seen us do one yet, that like the chat is rauco, you know?

SPEAKER_03 5:26

It is, yeah, it really is. It's worth it. Well, before we we are interviewing, um I love the guest that we're interviewing today. He's such a good human, Jesse. You're really gonna connect with him. He um, but before we interview LA Reiki guy um and numerologist Brian Kukin, we were gonna do some dooming, a little bit of dooming. So do you have some headlines?

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Yeah, I mean, I got a quick thing. It's uh just just just rando to start off. So um I love when when we're recording this, you might hear this a a week or so later or whatever. When we're recording this, it's it was finally announced that uh Elon is doing his uh what's that electric rocket thing, whatever he does, that thing, you know, where he sends those rockets into the air, you know. Yeah, um, yeah, he's he's doing his IPO thing for that. So uh SpaceX.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

So it's officially um launched. Haha. He's officially launched it.

SPEAKER_04 6:28

Yeah, for for like they're trying to raise like a trillion dollars or something ridiculous, you know, and um, which they'll probably end up getting because people are insane.

SPEAKER_03 6:37

It's Starlink, by the way. Yeah, it's Starlink is part of it, X AI. They've wrapped it all together.

SPEAKER_04 6:44

I think the AI component is part of it, too, you know. And so um I found this uh strange and disturbing.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

And without saying something for you, yeah. Because the things I say can be very strange and I I live and Prof. I hurt your imaginator this week.

SPEAKER_04 7:05

I listened to uh they talked about it on uh Prof. Markets this morning at Elson. And uh he had a he had a he had a professor on whose name escapes me right now. Forgive me, professor. But um they were talking about it, and um so um what what they said, okay, yeah, and they kind of they kind of touched on this, and then I went and googled it, you know. So that the the SpaceX IPO, okay, includes this phrase, okay, at least 10 times, okay, over the course of the the documents, okay. That they that that their mission is to extend the light of consciousness to the stars, which I found really say it again. They okay, they the the mission of SpaceX, what the the mission of this IPO and what they're what why they're trying to raise money for the company, yada, you know? Yeah, is to extend the light of consciousness to the stars. And that and that that that just rando struck me as creepy phrase is is in the documents at least 10 times.

SPEAKER_03 8:18

10 plus times, yeah. Okay, and also it's so fucking arrogant. It's assuming that this is it, that we're it, and also like that us going up, uh you know, having this IPO mission, it's like we actually, oh my god, I'm just so mad.

SPEAKER_04 8:38

Connotation attached to it when you include um when you include X AI grok, whatever you want to call it, in with the rest of this with the rockets, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

It's a spell, it's a spell, it's spell casting.

SPEAKER_04 8:55

Well, yeah, it and when when you when you add that in, it's like okay, it's either gonna be us or it's gonna be the clankers that we're extending to the stars, yeah. And it it's kind of seems like it's they're good either way, you know.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

You know, yeah, well, I think they actually probably prefer the clankers because they're predictable. It was funny because I can't remember um what live we were on because it's been a really busy, good, busy week. But in one of the chats, somebody said, Be, oh, I think it was Sam the Sky Guy. He said, be unreadable, be unpredictable. Yeah, and I think that that's the beauty of being human beings, and but that's why these techno, um, what do you want to call them? Technocrats, these these tech bros, they prefer I call I call them tech douches, but go ahead. Okay, yes, tech douches that you know, I like that very much.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Is there like a and also is there is there a chart that I can go by to decide which uh tech douche I because uh uh um Altman is doing the the open AI uh IPO too. So is he yeah, he's pushing hard on that. Is there some sort of douche chart that we can figure out? Like what's let's make a douche chart, which we we should make one, like which one to invest in, you know? Yes, like that's a thing that you and I should make.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Yes, we should, and it should have doom hole. Um, is AI the devil doom hole sticker on it? Because that's perfect.

SPEAKER_04 10:26

That's a thing that we a techno douche for you. We need to, we need to, we need to to go to the ride aid at like in the middle of the night and get poster board and glitter and just and like markers because uh we got this project due.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

And oh, I thought you were gonna say we could gorilla put stickers on actual douches that are is AI the devil.

SPEAKER_04 10:50

If we had like a gorilla, just like you just you know, it doesn't hurt them, but like it just gets us, they just get covered in stickers.

SPEAKER_03 10:56

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

That would be good.

SPEAKER_03 10:58

Um, but they prefer the clankers to us because the clankers are predictable, you know, and we are not the clankers. They know what they'll need in terms of I don't know, maintenance and all the things, and they don't know with us, and we're so messy. Human beings are so messy because we're so unpredictable, we're so unreadable, which makes me want to be even more so. I mean, this is crazy. I didn't even post these clips of what we talked about this week with Anna, and they're on YouTube and they keep getting viewed, and it's like people are just hungry for real people behind the mics.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

I and I checked it this morning, and I and I had no idea. And I I I don't think you did either. I didn't either. Um so uh Jen connected our our our our Substack to um to her her YouTube channel. And um so uh when we were when we when we do a recording on Substack, it automatically carries over to YouTube. Now, what we weren't aware of was that it breaks that automatically into shorts, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

Which is kind of fine.

SPEAKER_04 12:11

Yeah, and uh which okay, if clankers have to do something, that's not a bad thing for clankers. And now that makes me happy because basically just the algorithm going, yeah, let's let's cut this into little sections and like put and and repost it, which okay. Um, we still made the content, so it's not like it's you know, it's not like hey, uh a clanker made this, and now a clanker is gonna cut it up into clanker parts, you know. Exactly. It's us, it's us. Um, yeah, okay. So that's a gray area, but all right. Any the the the whether or not it's like cool or not, who knows? But we'll have to see where it goes. But um the point of this is that we had no idea that it had no idea. So uh Anna Maria again, she she sends me a message yesterday afternoon and she goes, Who was gonna tell me that me talking about Merecats has like 230 likes on like YouTube?

SPEAKER_02 13:06

And I go, What? What and then you sent it to me, and I'm like, What?

SPEAKER_04 13:11

I was like, wait, what? And she goes, and and she sent me a screenshot of like all your shorts with that are attached to your curious cat. And I had no idea that and you and then I sent it to you, and I go, Did you know this was a thing? And you're like, No, I don't know, yeah. And so I was like, the clankers are the clankers made this on YouTube.

SPEAKER_03 13:33

Have you watched them? Because they took the it's perfect because they took out our cuss words, probably for so that uh you know, people younger people could watch it, of course, yeah, and then they took and then it cuts off right when I'm about to talk about like maybe you know, things that hurt your imaginator.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

It's perfect, they're perfectly where I jumped on the other day though. What like um you did like a you did like that a solo. You were solo, and you were because I couldn't get on. You were talking about um just Elon and Alman. Elon and Altman's trial. Yeah, that's got almost a thousand views. What you're pushing 800 views on that thing right now on the in it turned it into a clip.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

I all I was was like, I was butthurt, I was so mad about it, and that's all I said was basically I'm so you should be looking at this afternoon because they keep getting views, yeah. People just like this old lady.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

We didn't do anything, we didn't, we did not, we just we just originally made the content and like now it's like it's like posting itself itself.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Well, you know, it it just reminds me that because my guides were like, Okay, you're pissed about this, you don't have to be pissed alone, just jump on uh substance.

SPEAKER_04 14:45

I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a live update, okay?

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Uh this is so fun. This is like we get the Santa Bell for this because this is us. We get the Santa Bell. I feel like it's been a good week for our podcast because the uh while you're looking it up.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

Oh well, there it is in the background. Okay, there it is.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

All right, me being angry in the background. I love it. It could be a ringtone.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

All right, I mean, this is our content, so I can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

The nine-person jury found that Musk waited too long to file his lawsuit and missed the deadline for the statute of limitations. The jury had deliberated only two hours. I feel like there are people in Silicon Valley that had longer lunches than the people on the jury. The jury served in an advisory role, but Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers accepted the verdict Monday as the court's own and dismissed Musk's claim. The three-week trial in Oakland, California. Three weeks. Like it took them longer to select each of the jurors than it took them to come back with it. Okay, I'll just stop. I'm getting really red right now because I'm really mad about it. I was getting really red interrupted. Like a fucking lobster. I know a lobster in California shed light on the like a soap.

SPEAKER_04 16:04

So that so that's like a that that is a uh okay, and so it turned that into a short short like it's about it, a YouTube short. It's about a minute long, okay? It's sitting right now at 782 views. Okay, that's so funny. Then you you then you have another one.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

But basically how the algorithms are working out because fucking AI is treating bots like humans, and they're treating humans like fucking bots. They're so suspicious of us. You know, everybody in the comments were saying of this video, we're saying, I wish they gave that much scrutiny to all the bots and the bot reviews on these Kindle, you know, the Kindle.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

This is where you're talking about Rachel's book.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

Yeah, you can have this thing. KDP had this. It was like this uh contest. I never wanted to be a part of it, but if your book was downloaded a certain amount of times in the month and you won your genre or whatever, they awarded money. It became pretty obvious that it was like bot created uh like trash that was winning month after month. You know what I'm talking about, Jesse.

SPEAKER_04 17:16

Yeah, I know. Bot created trash.

SPEAKER_03 17:18

It was, I was so angry, but then you got so spicy.

SPEAKER_04 17:22

Okay, so it turned that it turned that into a short because um bot uh but bother pulled it took down all of Rachel White's the business of Who's like half her reviews this week?

SPEAKER_03 17:34

Yeah, so we've kind of waged war to try to get our reviews.

SPEAKER_04 17:37

Yeah, you send it 219 views on that one.

SPEAKER_03 17:40

Wow, yeah, that's so good. Um that's fun. I hope does what does my bio say? Does it point people to our substack?

SPEAKER_04 17:48

And and Anna and uh and and and Anna and us talking about uh the mere cat debacle is it like is it like 236 views right now? That's what I mean they're good numbers, like uh we like we the like the the the the butt acne one they turned that into a clip.

SPEAKER_02 18:10

What oh my god, it's in almost 200 views.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

It's like if I get sued by Paula Butter D but help me, I will need the community to come forward.

SPEAKER_04 18:22

Well, uh yeah, so uh I you know I don't know what you know. You need to uh we'll we'll talk offline, but yeah, we you need to add some links and stuff to okay, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

That I have it on my to-do list.

SPEAKER_04 18:34

So do you have any other but I mean you're literally like like nothing like like we did we created the content, we did nothing.

SPEAKER_03 18:42

I know no. We I I just what it tells me is that the machine really wants just raw takes, yeah, and that don't hurt people that aren't hurtful, but that are just raw takes, and it's like there it's craving that because the machine is not human, and so that is the most human content. So if your guides tell you to jump on and you know say something about a news story or something, you don't need me, Jesse, to do like some live doom holing because I get you all jump on.

SPEAKER_04 19:18

Yeah, but yeah, no, but um, but I I've I I've I've I've made a sacred pact with the universe and the old gods that like I don't I I don't do any doom holes without you.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Oh, that's so nice. And here I was on there just like raging, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

But you were but you were like uh you were like this is Jin reporting live. You were like news report Jen, you know, which that's different, you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

I know. I used to have news reporter hair and it bothered me so much. It was like this perfect uniform thing. I had this hairdresser that always I would come in and my hair looked nicer than when I left because she'd make me look like a newscaster, so I'd have to just like mess it up, mess it up because I don't like hair that's like that.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Well, guess what? What the algorithm is that says your newscaster hair is just fine.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Well, it's not new caster now, now it's just messy Marvin. There, there, there's like we're not we're just audio, but my hair is messy Marvin right now. But yeah, no, this uh, but I've got my Trump bangs going today.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

Yeah, right on, yes. And you could like come that back into like uh whatever goes on the peppermint patty or whatever happens with that.

SPEAKER_02 20:25

Um, but uh I love peppermint patty, I know she was the best.

SPEAKER_03 20:31

I just love her and her sandals, like she was she was always in her little Birkin stocks before Birkin stock. This isn't Thanksgiving dinner. Where's the turkey? And she's right, like we all need a friend like peppermint patty, don't we?

SPEAKER_04 20:45

Yeah, she she did sort of like uh, but and it was so what was her little friend? Uh Marcy. Marcy was always called her sir, sir. Yeah, sir.

SPEAKER_03 20:54

I love him. I feel like I I feel like I fet them, uh met the two of them trail running in Colorado, but what isn't that what he makes everybody call him too, sir?

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Did we just make a connection?

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Oh my god. What is that? How you you made the connection and let's see how the zeitgeist shifts.

SPEAKER_02 21:22

If he says good grief, okay, if he says good grief in a um like a press conference today, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

Do you think he if he says good grief? Do you think he can pull like a football away from somebody like right before they're about to kick it?

SPEAKER_03 21:39

We can pull the football away from him. That's our magic.

SPEAKER_04 21:43

Doesn't somebody always follow him around with a football? The football? Oh my god, look at what we just did. The universe is like literally breaking everything down right now. Who's Snoopy? Is that JD Vance? Snoopy, who's the bee ball? No, no, no, no. I would never uh who's I would never equate that.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

Who who's Woodstock and the Beagle? I feel like Woodstock is the spokesperson that you know the White House spokesperson. Oh blonde. Uh yeah. I can't think of her name. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 22:17

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:18

She's definitely Woodstock. Little bird. You just like fly around and hit the wall. Fly around and hit the wall. Our Woodstock died in um the Mount St. Helens eruption. Jesse, I told that last week. I shared that story.

SPEAKER_04 22:34

That was earlier in the week. We're just always on the we're just always on, you know. So it's like no, we're just always on.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

Yeah. Between the people.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

Like time doesn't mean anything anymore. It does. We're always there.

SPEAKER_03 22:45

Well, it doesn't mean anything to the clankers. And it so yeah, why should it to us?

SPEAKER_04 22:50

I mean, I guess when this airs, it will probably be last week.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

But if you were doing that, but and then everybody, the zeitgeist can be like, why is Trump's administration mirroring the peanuts gang? And we're gonna be like, We did that. We have proof we did that. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 23:09

I mean, uh, this is documented, everyone. This goes into the archives. This will probably be in a presidential library one day.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Yeah, it might be. Okay, hit me with a doom because um Brian's about to come on. He hasn't asked to be admitted, but when he comes in, he can just come into the tail end of the doom hole and then I'll interview. Uh I'll give him an intro. Doom hole. Do you have anything from Victor Tangeman? Like uh Terry hit us with Victor Tangerman yesterday, and I was like, I already love you, Terry, but now I'm going to get down on a knee and propose to you. Hello, will you will you be in our lives forever?

SPEAKER_04 23:49

Yeah, you know, uh, I I wasn't kidding. I feel like Terry is our uh science and uh tech correspondent now.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

Oh, I think so. Yeah, and I think he'd gladly do it. And um, I mean I think I think he's already signed himself up. Jesse, are you okay if I put a permanent link in the show notes um on Buzz Sprout to his um his email or his uh magazine, his engineering magazine? I applaud it. Okay, then I'll do that. I'm gonna put that on my to-do list too. I love how everybody's listening to me making my to-do list, but no, that's not we're not moon-based.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

That's that's space 1990, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Terry's magazine permanent link.

SPEAKER_04 24:34

So trust online. Yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

God, that feels 10 years stale. Wow, that's like the whoa, like that's that's breaking news.

SPEAKER_04 24:44

That's a non-thing. Uh uh, tab soda causes how AI is transforming China's entertainment industry.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Oh, oh, this is so relevant. Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_04 25:02

I I don't know what happened. Oh, it's the New York Times.

SPEAKER_03 25:05

Oh, yeah, paywall.

SPEAKER_04 25:07

Yeah, okay. Uh yeah, I don't I don't have time to sneak around that right now. Not that I don't subscribe to the New York Times. I just heard of record.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Don't worry, I can take that out. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 25:18

No, I I don't care. Uh um, yeah. Do better, New York Times.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

I have a funny tweet in the meantime. Izzy Beats on Twitter said this Beethoven was fucking deaf. But yeah, sure, you need a robot to be creative for you.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

Well, that's true. I mean, okay, I heard this fair point.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Fair point. Um, wholesome side of X uh posted this. I heard an interview today about AI in creative spaces, and the man being interviewed said, AI is data, and data can only look backwards. Creativity looks forward, and I need to sit with that in the best possible way.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Fucking clankers, fucking clankers, fucking clankers, fucking clankers.