Rockets & Robots & Lil Pink Mice

This week Jesse admits that Bezos' rockets live rent-free in his head. We talk about the week's AI headlines. Jenn shares the story of a little local fair where a strange guitarist interacted strangely. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Fucking clankers. Fucking clankers.

SPEAKER_05 0:13

When you said the squirrels were hanging out in your yard, I was just like, I did not, I was not prepared. You were ill-prepared. They're by the fire pit. Oh my god. Okay, are you ready? I'm just gonna start talking.

SPEAKER_02 0:33

I am so ready. I don't even know how I'll edit this. Who cares? We'll talk about my squirrel.

SPEAKER_05 0:39

Jen, there's been there's there's been so much going on.

SPEAKER_03 0:41

Oh my god, and you're okay. You emptied your rage bucket last week, but now I feel like my rage bucket got full, and then I emptied it. No, no, no. Just just because of like I should have been at myself of like I should have been more skeptical about all of these headlines. They're all propaganda from AI folks, scare tactics.

SPEAKER_05 1:05

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

It's I think I called it psychological abuse on on Substack, but that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:12

So no, I mean that's not ready. That's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:15

It totally is.

SPEAKER_05 1:16

Uh it it it this is not real.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

It's not real. That's why you and me need to do this because we can lack it.

SPEAKER_05 1:23

They're not they're not creating our robot overlords, all they're doing is just uh they're they're just getting people to give them money and they're just passing all the money around, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

And on top of it, I think that they're positioning themselves to say our AI model is proprietary, and so you have to pay us, and they'll copyright it, and they have to you have to pay us to use it in your apps, or this or that. That's what I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:50

I mean, I and and forgive me, I'm blanking on the on his name, but the guy that was on Zitron's podcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

Oh, yeah. Um Chris uh okay, a musical interlude.

SPEAKER_05 2:06

Sing along, sing along with me because this is important. Not what I mean. Oh, oh, here it is. Better offline. Okay, it was uh it was Ed Zitron, of course. And um where's the other guy? Cal Newport is his name. That's it, cal Newport. Uh it's it's called the Metha, the Mythos and Anthropomorphization. I'm sorry, I'm reading this as it like, you know how you know how when you pull your podcast up, it like scrolls across your screen. So you're waiting for it to just I couldn't get it, I couldn't get a whole bite of that, but yeah, it's the latest issue of it's the latest uh episode of Better Offline, and it was amazing. And Jen listened to it, and then Jen was like, Hey, remember you got you need to listen to Better Offline, you're the one that made me listen to it in the first place. And I was like, Oh yeah, I'm behind. And then we both listened to it yesterday, and I was like, you know what? They're right. They're just fear-mongering with this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 3:05

That's all it is, and they were saying that it's a new thing in journalism because it's like it's a whole new thing and it's gone viral. Like to put these head, they everybody jumps online, they they are cynical about everything else, except for if something comes from their AI tech overlords, and then it's like, yeah, let's let's just go ahead and put this headline out there. Maybe it's all just clickbait. Yeah, yeah, it's all just clicking. I love that we both saw it.

SPEAKER_05 3:31

Yeah, because yeah, because like it's it's it it there is no, it's not a standard news article. And I love how he like um he he ties it back to like how they started reporting things during the pandemic, too. It's all just it, it's all just basically it's like uh AI is gonna take all of your jobs if you're a veterinarian. That's it. And they don't premise behind it is just like, hey, if you're a veterinarian, you're fucked, you know? And it but it's like that with everyone, they just like pick this random shit, and like they're telling everybody, like, uh, if you do this right now, uh, AI is gonna take your job away in six months with no evidence, no, you know, it it's with no backing, no evidence, no facts, no nothing.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

But then on top of it, that the other thing that I thought was so important about that podcast episode was they talked about when you're asking your chat bot or whatever, uh, how long will it take me to drive from here to here during this traffic? He goes, It's the equivalent energy-wise of going to the moon, launching to the moon, landing on earth, and then doing some dumb shit. So it's like that's how inefficient it is right now. So don't do it.

SPEAKER_05 4:46

Old school map quest where you'd have to like look it up and then they'd have to print the map out, yeah, and like take it with you. Like that, that that wasn't killing the environment.

SPEAKER_03 4:56

That didn't hurt Mother Earth, exactly Mother Earth. So we'll have links, let's put links to that um episode in the show notes for people.

SPEAKER_05 5:04

Uh do you do do you do you pick apples in Vermont? Your job is gonna be gone in three months from AI, you know, and it's it's just anything, you know.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

Are you are you a mathematician? Your job is gone. Your job's gone. You're already fucked, yeah. You know, wait, let's give that a Santa Bell because they did good work.

SPEAKER_05 5:24

They did good work here. Here's the Ed and Cal. Fantastic. That's a good one, always fantastic as always.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

Well, what other happening else was?

SPEAKER_05 5:35

You know who else is fantastic as always? Who? When Frank Landymore is writing for futurism, she's more happy. It's like my face. Jen's doing dance right now. She loves it. She loves a good Frank Landymore article. All right, more than even a pop tart. Yeah, futurism. You guys, you you gotta you gotta hook up with us. Yeah, because uh we're we're fun to hang out with.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

We are, and we love you. We would love bomb you, love bomb you, but not in a weird stalkery way, just like boundaries.

SPEAKER_05 6:05

I'm too old and lazy to get weird with anything, but like um that's when we got to get old and so Frank. Okay, so Frank says yes, rogue group gains access to anthropics dangerous new methos ai. That didn't take long, as Frank says. Rogue Group.

SPEAKER_02 6:30

This feels so Star Wars.

SPEAKER_05 6:32

So, um, from what I understand, and and I guess I'll I need to read the article. I I guess uh a bunch of nerds in a Discord group like figured out how to hack into like their new secret, like fucking yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:47

And what did yes, read it, read it.

SPEAKER_05 6:49

I'm so sorry to interrupt you. Remember Claude Mithas, Anthropic's new AI model that it hyped as being so powerful that it was too dangerous to release to the public. Well, it's already been broken into, according to new reporting from Bloomberg. This is uh too dangerous, everyone. God bless you, Frank. It's gonna kill us all. Yeah. Yeah. I can see Frank rolling his eyes as he's typing this shit. Me too. A small group of Discord users gained access to a preview version of Mythos. A source told the outlet on the same day Anthropic announced it would be exclusively releasing the model to a select ring of companies. All right. In other words, uh, anybody who's given them the kickbacks. Yeah. Um, we're investigating a report claiming unauthorized access to Claude Mythos preview through one of our third-party vendor environments. A spokesperson for Anthropic told Bloomberg in a statement. The company added that it hasn't found any evidence of unauthorized access to mythos. Okay, so they found it, they broke into it, but there was no unauthorized access to it.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

They didn't leave any proof that they did it. Yeah, yeah. That's encouraging. Wow, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 8:12

The group supposedly doesn't have any nefarious intentions. It has been uh regularly using Mythos since gaining access to it. Okay, I thought they just said that it didn't have any unauthorized access to it. According to Bloomberg. Though only for non-cybersecurity related. Oh, so they didn't do like any of the like evil villain shit. Okay, yeah, they just okay. They just they they just they just asked it. Uh like uh if if you're an apple picker in Vermont, how much longer do you have until you need to go find a new job? Uh yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

You should have gotten a new job. You should have gotten it yesterday.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

You should figure out a way to fold space and time because you are quantumly fucked. The source described the group as being interested in playing around with new models rather than wreaking havoc. Oh, well, that's nice of them. Remember when hackers were cool and like they fucked shit up?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Now they're just like, now it's so sweet.

SPEAKER_05 9:11

Yeah, now they're just hanging out on Discord and they're like, Well, okay, do you guys want to play League of Legend Legends or do you want to hack into some fucking AI shit? Yeah. But their alleged feat does raise the alarming possibility that other less scrupulous actors might have gotten their hands on Mythos without anthropic knowing. According to Bloomberg's source, described only as a person familiar with the matter. Okay, the users are part of a private Discord server dedicated to digging up information on unreleased AI models. Wow, can you they must be fun at parties? They gained access to an educated guests about where Mythos was stored online based on how Anthropic has stored its other models. Some of the details of which were revealed in a recent data breach from an AI startup that works with large AI companies. The source also claimed to have permission to access anthropic tech used to evaluate its models through another company that did contract work for anthropic. Okay. No serious harm seems to have come from the breach, but it's a bad look for anthropic, which earned brownie points for holding off from real from unleashing mythos to the public. What can what what supposedly what can this fucking thing do? You know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 10:39

Well, we know we know a lot because of Ed Zitron. I mean, but but I mean, like, what is it? It's no big deal. They they they did this whole giant PR thing uh a couple weeks ago about oh, we had to get everybody together because it's such a dangerous tech. And it's like if they'd actually made us step toward AGI, then we would have heard about it. So it was just a big, giant, very effective marketing and PR campaign.

SPEAKER_05 11:07

Right. I mean, this is this is one of those things where like, uh, you know what, Jen? This is one of those things. First off, if it's so dangerous and fucking super secret, okay, why not keep your fucking mouth shut about it?

SPEAKER_03 11:20

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 11:22

Number two, okay. This is the thing that I've always said with things like this, okay? Yeah, everybody was always like, Oh my god, if you take this pill or drink this stuff, um, you'll you weight will magically fall off of you. You know what I mean? Right. All right. Everybody it just in America is so obsessed with with losing weight that like if that thing actually existed, the news wouldn't talk about anything else but for for fucking six months. Yep. Exactly. You know what I mean? Yeah, like like like there, like uh uh when you get such a good point. When you and I don't know how many these you got, Jen. When you used to get those emails, uh uh like uh, do you need uh stronger erections? You know what I mean? I've never gotten that email. Uh yeah, well that used to be a thing where it was just like uh oh yeah, that's awful back in the yeah, since the early days of the oh yeah, toilet. Okay. The the way dudes are obsessed with that, if that was a real thing, like the news wouldn't talk about anything else for two fucking years, you know? So you can't tell me that this this meet those thing is like gonna be the thing that like destroys the world. Okay, I agree 100%.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

I it's bullshit. Yeah, it's bullshit, but on top of it, I actually think that it's you know, that's why the people need to listen to that episode that we're we're linked to in the show notes because it made me feel so good because there's no there. They know, like if you're looking at it from outside, for me as a writer, for Jesse as a writer, it's easier to have that more hawk-like look down global perspective on this whole thing. There is no there there, like they're creating these giant models to what? So that we're all in subscription services for them because they've embedded them in our toasters and our refrigerator and our uh Sonic Air toothbrush and whatever the hell. Jesse, you have a tail behind you. There's a tail behind you.

SPEAKER_05 13:25

Oh, yeah, they're running back and forth right now because there's a tractor across it across the road.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

Oh, that is so cute. And you know what? You were reading the story, and Cooper, my Cooper was snoring. And I thought, I hope it that doesn't make a blow to your confidence because he's just a sleepy dog, eepy dog.

SPEAKER_05 13:42

They were snoring too until the fucking tractor showed up.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

So okay, did we doom hole that one? Let's do that. Oh, yeah, yeah, hell yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:49

And Frank, uh, I'm sorry that I brought up uh internet spam erections uh and connected that with your story. Please forgive me. But um I'm so glad I never got one of those emails. It was a it was a common phenomenon, Jen.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

Apparently. I I had I have to ask Doug about this later. Like, what was in he's like, uh, it's just a bunch of junk crap, crap.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Yeah, I mean, uh it was a he he he got him. Like if you were a dude, you got him. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it didn't matter, didn't matter if you were having trouble or not. It it they did not discriminate, they were just like, dude, here you go. You get this email.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

I feel sorry for the people out there that got the emails, and they're like, I didn't have problems till I started getting these emails, and now I'm overthinking everything.

SPEAKER_05 14:40

Yeah, there was some therapy sessions that probably spawned off of those things. I'm sure.

SPEAKER_03 14:44

Oh my god, we're not laughing at the suffering. We honestly do not.

SPEAKER_05 14:49

I mean, we're not laughing at the suffering.

SPEAKER_03 14:50

No, I just keep thinking of Jeff Bezos's rockets.

SPEAKER_05 14:57

Yeah. When I'm alone and it's quiet, I think about Jeff Bezos's rocket. Okay, let's see here.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Oh, I'm gonna have to save it.

SPEAKER_05 15:08

I think I lost, I think I lost Jen. She pop back up. All right.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

I did. I got wait, I gotta spray. You know what? I bought this sage spray called holy water from our friend Rachel White, who has all right, she's spraying. I have the the vapors now.

SPEAKER_05 15:28

I don't. All right, I'm gonna Jen. If she hadn't already been sitting down, she would have hit her fainting couch. But now I'm back up. I'm back up, baby. She's back, she's back up just like she got a rocket email about directions.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

You're making my headphones hot. That's not a good thing. Sorry, sorry, I feel like my ears are sweating.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

I'm really sorry. Okay, you're I'm not, I'm not sorry. I'm not sorry.

SPEAKER_02 15:57

I keep picturing what this episode artists are.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

If we can't, I mean, if we if we can't make fun of like penis-shaped rockets, then like what's the point?

SPEAKER_03 16:06

I'm gonna make you know what I'll do, I'll draw a penis-shaped robot for our. Don't spoil it, don't spoil it. Don't spoil it. Okay, they've already seen it if they clicked on this episode.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

So I mean, it's gotta be a surprise. Well, yeah, that's true.

unknown 16:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 16:23

Your brain's in the future. My brain is caught up in I don't know. Rocket point rocket pornography. I have no idea. They hit me with the next headline. That's what she said.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

All right, hold on. All right, hold on.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

I need to spray myself with the holy water again.

SPEAKER_05 16:45

Yeah, just just go ahead and spray. I'll go ahead and I'll start. I'll probably all right. It's time for us to change topics. I'm resetting.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

I need to do my mic now, too.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

Yeah, this is from CNBC, everyone. Who I you know what? Honestly, sometimes they have solid stories. No shade to them. I didn't even realize that there still was a CNBC, but good for them. No, I mean, I I don't mean it in an asshole way, I just mean like just in an oblivious way.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

I didn't know that was still a thing. Good for them. I know. Is Mary Kate cosmetics? Is that still a thing? I don't know. I don't know either. That used to be a huge thing in Dallas. I always wanted to have a website that was dead or alive, and then you'd have to every day you'd have a celebrity.

SPEAKER_05 17:25

Oh, yeah, you'd see the big Cadillacs rolling all over the place in Dallas. They had like a big office building. Yeah, it used to be a huge thing.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

I know.

SPEAKER_05 17:33

Okay, that's where Mary Kay was. Also, do you guys have you guys ever looked into Mrs. Fields cookies? Mrs. Fields cookies, like, like, and I mean this in the nicest way possible. She was super hot back in the day. I'm sure she still is. Yeah, yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

I was just like I can appreciate the aesthetic back then.

SPEAKER_05 17:51

Well, it's just like you when you think Mrs. Fields, you're like, you don't know, you think of like you know, grandma taking cookies out of the oven, you know, or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 17:59

It wasn't, it was hot. No, Mrs. I was like, wow, Mrs. Fields. You know, you're in the presence of a Mary Kay uh makeup artist. I was a I was a model for Mary Kay for a short period of time. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

You were a Mary Kay model, just for a short period of time. Well, that's okay. Now that starts to explain some of that dating history you've been talking about.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

They got me roped into that.

SPEAKER_05 18:24

You were with that you were at that jet set in the yeah, uh-huh. I get you. Yeah, the modeling the modeling world. Are there pictures of you at Studio 54?

SPEAKER_03 18:35

There aren't. We can make them though with AI.

SPEAKER_05 18:40

We're not gonna do that. No, we're not. Do you know what? It would they would they would look like uh brown shaded fucking cartoons of like people randomly disco dancing, and I'd have like seven fingers on one hand because that's like a giveaway. You would, and it would be like uh that's creepy. It would be like, how how is she ever a model? She's got seven fingers and like uh three noses. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 19:03

You know, you might have to go back into your trash bin of your emails and look for some of those subscriptions or prescriptions.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

I I I guess you might have issues after that.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

My my email's pretty fucking filtered, like so filtered to the fact that like it's almost unusable. Like I never get shit that like I use for stuff. I never know like when we're supposed to record and shit.

SPEAKER_03 19:25

That's why I always just text you.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

Yeah, you have to. I'm and it's uh I'm I'm like a I'm like a little, I'm like a I would like to see the baby, you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:34

But um okay, wait, you have another headline. Stop it. CNBC, everyone.

SPEAKER_05 19:40

CNBC, CNBC. Okay. This is why they tune in, Jen. It's for our witty banter. It's not really for the headlines, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

We're gonna have sexual hangups after this episode. I was like, they're like sorry, they're like, they're like, they're like, I don't know what the fixes are like.

SPEAKER_05 19:56

I know that redneck's gonna talk about Mary Kay Cosmetics and like Bezos' like penis rockets.

SPEAKER_03 20:02

Penis rockets.

SPEAKER_05 20:03

All right. I can't wait for the cease and desist order. All right, here we go. CNBC says Palantir. Okay, so here we are back to uh Daddy Carp on his fucking on his fucking douche cord server. Palantir Inc.'s$300 million deal with the USDA to safeguard food supply. Yeah, what that should be the most horrifying. Like, like I could stop there and you should just be horrified. Like my head hurts. Why would you even why would you want these fucks anywhere near your food supply? Okay. Oh my god. Palantir announced a$300 million deal with the USCA, which of course involved no kickbacks whatsoever. Oh yeah, it was pure, it was just purely on merit, which will use the company's software in farmland management. Okay, if anybody stopping there. Nope. I have a bridge I would like to sell you. Bridge over trade. This is so disconcerting.

SPEAKER_03 21:23

I am so sickened by this.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

Farmers face rising supply costs spurred by the war in Iran and an ongoing trade war with key partners, including China. Palantir is diversifying beyond its well known defense contracts, which is always a good thing, when somebody starts out in defense and then just decides, you know what we should do. This would be really good. Let's look at farmland. Okay. That is a pickle. All right.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Oh my God. That is very bad.

SPEAKER_05 22:07

Ridge over troubled penis. Palantir announced a$300 million deal with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which will use the software company's technology to manage farmland as geopolitical risks threaten global supply chains. The agreement builds an ongoing builds on ongoing projects with the USDA and underscores Palantir's growing role inside the U.S. government as it goes beyond cornerstone defense contracts supporting US military modernization. U.S. farmers are grappling with rising supply costs and are getting squeezed by an ongoing trade war between the U.S. and its major trading part. I mean, look, hey, props to the farmers. Like, what are their options? I know. I mean, they're they're back into a corner. They totally are. And so when you have a thing like this says, hey, we can come help you. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you're worried about keeping the family farm rolling. Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

What do you what are your options? What are your options? But then on top of it, I can't help but think that aren't we creating a risk if we're adding AI overlay from Palantir onto all of these?

SPEAKER_05 23:23

Because what they're gonna do is they're gonna bleed these farmers' drive first, and then venture capitalism is gonna come in and snatch up all the and and sell it all to uh to to basically turn it into day, yeah. Hey, yeah, we don't need that rice field over there anymore. We got enough rice fields, like uh let's turn that into a data center. Okay, oh my god. See, it's not the AI that I'm worried about, Jen. It's the human beings behind it. It's the human beings who are have these god complexes and they're the worst kind of people, of course. And they're the ones who are like going, um, hey, this is inevitable, it's gonna happen no matter what. So just deal with it. We're in this war with China about who's gonna be AI, you know, who's gonna rule AI or whatever. Uh so let's pop the bubble right now. Um it's imaginary, it's all imaginary. Um, you know what? Uh, spoiler alert, it's gonna be fucking China. Um, it's like um, you know, but like who's um, you know, so uh yeah, so we have to do all these things, and it it it's just so they can like steal and pillage and rape and you know, all the other things, all the all that other things, all those other awful things. So yeah, so um I mean, yeah, it keeps going on, but I know let's let's do like I feel like we I feel like we've got it, you know. Uh God bless the farmers out there, God bless all you farmers out there. I knew it and God bless those those those people, you know. The the I mean farmers are my neighbors, they always have been.

SPEAKER_03 25:06

And also, God bless all the people, or Goddess bless all the people that are farmers, they have this land and they're not they're refusing to sell it for a lot of money to send people to me.

SPEAKER_05 25:21

They're too there like like uh I used to drive around Dallas, uh, you know, in the in the early 2000s, yeah, and you would see um, okay, all this is urban sprawl, it's built up, there's new theaters, there's new this, there's new this here, there's this all these houses, and then there would be like a farm.

SPEAKER_03 25:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 25:42

You know what I mean? Yep, and you and you're just like uh I love it. You you you know, you know, as soon as that old man's kid, as soon as that old man dies, his kids are gonna like break that place up and like you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Yeah, but you know, people are resisting now and they're saying, I hope they this was my grandfather's land. I keep reading about it, and they're like, I was offered all this money for it, but I'm not giving it up. This is a legacy, especially with the data centers.

SPEAKER_05 26:10

People are that that they're fighting back because this is important, they're going after they're going after those types of the you know, people that have like these these these big family farms. Yep, exactly. They can that's just empty space that they can destroy. And exactly.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

I love the resistors on that. Good for that.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

What's that song? Put up a parking lot, you know?

SPEAKER_03 26:33

Yep, pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

Put up a parking lot. That's it. That's what we're trying to do.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

Bop bop bup. Okay, did we doom hole that one?

SPEAKER_01 26:42

No, I mean, if we didn't, Felix double doom hole it. That's double doomhole those double doomhole douches. Double doom hole douche. This feels good. You're a double doomhole douche. Not you, the listener, all the people out there.

SPEAKER_05 27:01

No, they know I'm not singing to them. They know I'm they know I'm singing good things with them. I love them.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Me too. Oh, they're life.

SPEAKER_05 27:09

I love, I love our listener. I do so cool. We have the coolest listeners, and smart.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

They already know. They already know this.

SPEAKER_05 27:17

I mean, they already know this.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

They're they're just they're their instincts tell them this.

SPEAKER_05 27:21

They're listening to they're listening to hear me be speak of the horrors and for uh us to make fun of it.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

Exactly. I love it. I need it every week. Do we do we want another one of these? Well, let's do one more. If you've got one, does something stay on the thing? I got like no, I got like 20 of them. Just pick your favorite. Uh it reminds me of one time we went to this. Um, there was this like little fair that was down by Lake Washington.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

This is the this is the special interest part of the of the doom hall, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 27:54

My my kids and I walked down to this little fair, and people had little kiosks and little, you know, little ice cream stands and things like that. We were sitting by this sparkly lake, and there was this man that had a he had a guitar and he was playing it, and he said, Hey kids, get come closer, come closer. Do you see the little pink mouse in my guitar? And that was so creepy. And I just backed away with my daughters, and I said, and and Brian goes, I didn't see the little pink mouse. I said, I don't want you looking at the hole in his guitar for a little pink mouse. That was really creepy. So we stopped going to those little fairs together where the little man was.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

I mean, it's it's it's like Nietzsche said. Sometimes if you stare too long into the guitar, you'll find the little pink mouse staring back at you.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

I didn't want my kids to look too close. And he kept trying to get people to go.

SPEAKER_05 28:51

I don't even want to know what the little pink mouse was.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

That's what I'm saying, Jesse. Like it can't be. It's my dick in a box.

SPEAKER_03 28:59

That's what I'm a book. I'm like, did he have like my dick in a box? How does this even make sense? And who's ever heard of a little pink mouse? One time we had a music teacher in fifth grade. We went to camp, Camp Wooten, and he dressed in a giant beep diaper. He was naked, except for a giant baby diaper, and he was on the stage, and that traumatized me a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 29:22

We had a teacher one time that um when we were taking a test, yeah, he would always be like, uh, take your test. I don't want anybody coming up to my desk right now. And I was like, what is that? Dude, why are your hands under your desk?

SPEAKER_03 29:39

Oh my god. And that literally links to a connection with one of our math teachers in high school. And he stood up after that test and he had chalk on his crotch.

SPEAKER_05 29:53

No way, yes, so I wasn't the only one. This guy was, I think.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

This is so weird.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

If I remember right, this this guy was like a science teacher.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

Ours was math and he was not a good teacher, but then he would he stood up, it was like for a fire drill, so it was unexpected, and he had on dark pants and his crotch had all this chalk on it.

SPEAKER_05 30:16

Jen, we're supposed to be taking it, we're supposed to be making this lighter with special interest. We took it, we took it to the bad place. This is the bad place. We took it to the no-no zone. We took it to the no-no zone.

SPEAKER_03 30:27

We gotta we gotta stop. Okay, I'm glad we shared that trauma. Look at us, we're so trauma bonded.

SPEAKER_05 30:33

I mean, we really are. We really are. I as far as I know, the dude was just like sitting at his desk.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

I don't think you need to say anything more about what he was doing at the desk.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

It had to do with his little pink mouse, it's very suspect at this point. We are so on the explicit rating right now on Apple.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

I I don't want to read the one I was about to because I don't want to look at a picture of Zuckerberg.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

All right, oh that's good, yeah. Makes my tummy bubbly.

SPEAKER_05 31:10

It makes me feel weird in my doom mode.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 31:16

I think we all feel a little weird in our let's close with this because this is like a special interest story. Okay, all right. I like this one, I like this one. This is a good one, okay? Okay, thousands of CEOs admit AI had no impact on employment or productivity, and it has economists resurrecting a paradox from 40 years ago. 40. Okay, this is from Fortune magazine. Okay, that so here's here's the funny part about this. This is for me, okay. Okay, so instead of just going, um, oh shit, AI is not doing fuck for us, everybody hates it. Suddenly they've got to resurrect an economic paradox theory from 40 years ago to try to justify this shit. Okay, and this is by Sasha Roldlberg, who is not responsible for these economists not just taking AI as bullshit as an answer. Uh, in 1987, economist and nobel laureate Robert Solau, uh, S O L O W. Props to you for winning that prize, dude. I agree. I hear that's hard to do, and not everyone can do it. Yep. Uh made a stark observation about the stalling evolution of the information age. Following the advent of transistors, microprocessors. Oh, okay, they're gonna be like, Well, did the transistor do anything? I can already see this shit coming. Microprocessors, integrated circuit. It's like the same, it's the same fucks that go, Well, like uh the monks found other shit to do when they created the printing press. Exactly. Yeah. Uh, I should read this. And Sasha, I'm sorry that I've butchered your first paragraph.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

We have adulterated it, but we will make it right now.

SPEAKER_05 33:18

Yes, we will make we will make it right. We we appreciate your report. And you have a beautiful name. You really do. It's a beautiful name, Sasha. Following the advent of transistors, microprocessors, integrated circuits, and memory chips of the 1960s, economists and companies expected these new technologies to disrupt workplaces and result in a surge of productivity. Instead, productivity growth slowed. Well, did it now? Hmm, the plot thickens dropping from 2.9 percent from 1948 to 1973 to 1.1 percent after 1973. Well, what is happening here? Because you would think that, like, because some fucker has a transistor radio now, you'd be double productive. Yeah, newfangled computers were actually at times producing too much information, generating agonizingly detailed reports and printing them on reams of paper. What had promised to be a boom in workplace productivity was for several years a bust. This unexpected outcome became known as Salow's productivity paradox, thanks to the economist's observation of the phenomenon. You can see the computer age everywhere, but in the productivity statistics, Salow wrote in New in the New York Times article of 1987. Data on how C-suite executives are or aren't using AI shows history is repeating itself, complicating the similar promises economists and big tech founders made about the technology's impact on the workplace and the economy. Despite 374 companies in the SP 500 mentioning AI and earnings calls, oh Sasha came with fucking receipts, everybody. She sure did. I like her. Yeah, she's not she's not kidding. Uh, most of which said the technology's implementation in the firm was entirely positive. According to a Financial Times analysis from September 2024 to 2025, those positive adoptions aren't being reflected in broader productivity gains. So there you go.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 35:58

Okay, I think that is not making people more productive.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

You know what else I noticed in there is a pattern, not Sasha, the industry is impatience shaming us. They're saying you're impatient and they're shaming us. They're like, no, really, you can't see the big picture, but we can't show it to you because it's just too much for you, peons. But they're impatience shaming us. Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. I'm flipping them off, double cannons.

SPEAKER_05 36:31

Boo boo-poo. Sasha, I'm a fan now. Good job. I think we're fans. Uh you brought the receipts. Yeah. We're doomhole now. Doom hole. Uh also, I'd like to make a quick note. Uh I feel like I neglected to mention the uh the CNBC article about Palantir in the future. Oh, yeah, yeah. I I did not uh I did not say that uh that was by brought to you by Samantha Subin and uh Seema Moody. So or most of you know, there is a pattern. So I'm sorry that uh I've I skipped, I may have skipped over your uh your names.

SPEAKER_03 37:12

Uh well we I and there we're gonna have links to all of them in the show notes, but I love how we have found these amazing journalists that are doing journalism. They are the people that I think that would have refused to report on Lauren Sanchez Bezos' happiness recipe or whatever the fuck it was last week.

SPEAKER_05 37:34

They wouldn't all it was last week.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Our editor is never going to ask us that because we I wake up on my 230 million dollar compound. I don't know what everybody's problem is stressing out. They should just sit and their partner.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

I stretch in the sun and then I have a cantaloupe and a and a juice shalt. Yes, and while uh while while Jeff and I are making our list of uh uh things that we are grateful for.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

Jeffy, what do you think she calls him? Daddy Bezos.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

I I'm I don't know. I don't think one of things.

SPEAKER_05 38:15

I'm uncomfortable continuing this conversation. I'm happy for the both of them. I'm glad that they found one another and they are in love. You're such a bad liar.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

They're not. I think that also I've I think that people have been reading her um, I don't know, her facial expressions, and they're saying that it's over and he doesn't know it's over yet. But let's stop. What are are you talking about? Dude, that's what people are talking about in this like sphere. You know, people that read faces. Many people are saying now I have to repeat people are saying she's had so much plastic surgery, it's oh my god, what is working?

SPEAKER_05 39:00

Oh my god, Jen. Oh my god, Jen. She's just trying to be grateful for all of the the all of the good things that have come to her through hard work. Okay, I'll stop it. If she smiles too much, her whole face cracks. So I mean, it's like uh it's not her fault.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

Oh my god. Okay, well, what are you gonna do? Or do what what fun thing do you have to do today?

SPEAKER_05 39:26

Uh, what am I gonna do? I'm changing my phone number and my address. So hopefully I won't get the seasoned assist like. Um, I can you know I can edit out anything. No, no, no, no, no, no. I you will not. We're ride or die, Jen.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

Right or die. I don't want to die though, but I don't want to die yet.

SPEAKER_05 39:50

No, no, no. This will be fine. This will be our late. You're you're nowhere close. You you have much, you have much things still to accomplish.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

This is the last, uh, you know, if this is a good thing.

SPEAKER_05 39:58

You have many more you have many more gratitude lists as you wake up on your on your compound in Colorado.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

I mean Wyoming. Let's just like Wyoming.

SPEAKER_05 40:12

Oh, yeah. Jen doesn't let Jen as you wake up on your on your compound in Utah, somewhere in Utah.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

Uh and my compound is by a sheriff's station. Let's just say that too. I don't know. I feel like I should need to add some buffer to it. And I have vicious dogs. Cooper snoring should not indicate how many vicious rottweilers I have out there.

SPEAKER_05 40:32

Well, that's just me every day. I wake up with my dogs here in Alabama, and uh I thought that's what your accent was. Yeah, it is exactly, and uh also uh uh my dogs and I will be vacationing in a non-extradition country uh for the rest of the summer.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

But until next week, we love you listeners.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

Bye, fucking clankers, bye everyone, fucking clankers, fucking clankers, fucking clankers.